For this very special 35th episode of Something Like, I invited the artist, poet, educator, and very dear friend Alex Turgeon to speak about the emotional potential of architecture, the queerness of ruins and decay, and his solo exhibition at Ashley Berlin, Interiors. To quote curator Stephanie Holl-Trieu’s text for his exhibition, “In Interiors, Alex Turgeon traces the structure of the feeling of home. A table becomes a landscape with windows to the interior, and a screen looming over the table performs as the sky. The sky says, Though sticks and stones may house my bones / Words will always stack together/ / To make the four walls of which they frame / And call me poetry by name.”

Unlike other episodes, I don’t unpack any of the music played on this show this time, in order to devote as much time as possible to Alex’s brilliance. With that in mind, email me if you want more info on any of the music or works that I’ve played here.


  • Learn more about Interiors and the programme at Ashley Berlin here:
  • Learn more about Alex Turgeon’s work here:
  • As always, Something Like’s jingle comes courtesy of the brilliant Roger 3000.



Julius Eastman, Femenine (extract), 1974, performed by ensemble 0 & Aum Grand Ensemble, released 2020 by Sub Rosa

Stephanie Holl-Trieu, Exhibition text for Interiors, Ashley Berlin, 2021

Roxy Music, In Every Dream Home, a Heartache, For Your Pleasure, 1973

Fred Simon and Liz Cifani, If I Could Tell You, Time and the River, 1985

Willie Dunn, Nova Scotia, Creation Never Sleeps, Creation Never Dies: The Willie Dunn Anthology, 2021

Moss King, Hallway Rug, Omni Gardens, 2020

Aaron Betsky, Queer Space, SCI-Arc Lecture, March 22, 1995.

Jeritree, House of Many Colours, Jeritree’s House of Many Colours, 1978

Yoshio Ojima, Mensis, Une Collection Des Chainons I: Music for Spiral (1988)

Lavender Country, Crying these Cocksucking Tears, Lavender Country, 1972

Yoshio Ojima, Mensis, Une Collection Des Chainons I: Music for Spiral (1988)

Joni Mitchell, Shadows and Light, The Hissing of Summer Lawns, 1975

Michael Ranta, The Wall is There, Die Mauer, 2019

Séigen Ono, Seigen, Waterfront, 1984

The Blue Nile, A Walk Across the Rooftops, A Walk Across the Rooftops, 1984

Yves Jarvis, Constant Change, The Same But By Different Means, 2019

Randy Kerber & Jowee Omicil, The Long Way Home, Y Pati, 2020

Alvin Curran, Walked the Way Home, Songs and Views of the Magnetic Garden, 1975

W-14, Falls to Ruin, Falls to Ruin, 1984

Essex Hemphill & Wayson Jones, Brass Rail

Nailah Hunter, Ruins, Spells, 2020

Stewart Brand, How Buildings Learn, 1994

Rémi Chaudagne, L’Île Des Temps, L’Île Des Temps, 1984

Everything But the Girl, Lonesome for a Place I know, Idlewild, 1988



Summer in the city: Hazy freneticism, long evenings in half light, sticking your arm out your office window, rolling up your pant legs and dipping your feet in a fountain, eating fries at the public pool, biking through the pine forests for the last unfound spot of dappled sunlight by the lake. Sure, there’s a certain amount of envy built into watching your friends leave the dusty, hot grips of the city for calmer, greener, beachier locations, but Summer in the city is also an exercise in in super-saturation (as the poet Monica Youn writes), in monotony with a different, louder beat.


  • As ever, Something Like’s jingle comes courtesy of the wonderful Roger 3000
  • I read First Blues by Saundra Rose Maley, from Disappearing Act, 2015 and A Parking Lot in West Houston, by Monika Youn from Barter, 2003
  • The sounds behind my voice today were recorded from my window, which overlooks the Admirälbrücke. Please everyone, be kind to the neighbourhoods you inhabit at night!


Marjorie Van Haltern feat. Louis Giansante, Dead of Summer, 1982
Herbie Hancock, Watermelon Man, Head Hunters, 1973
Ron Everett, Glitter of the City (Song by Tahira), Glitter of the City, 1977 (re-issued 2021)
Joe Cocker, (Video Interlude) Summer in the City, Have a Little Faith, 1994
Oliver Sain, Bus Stop, Bus Stop, 1974
Frank Harris & Maria Marquez, Field Trips, Echoes (compilation), 2019
Earnest Hood, Night Games, Neighborhoods, 1975 (re-issued 2019)
Oum Kalthoum, Alf Leila we Leila أم كلثوم – ألف ليلة وليلة, Alf Leila we Leila, 1969
Eli Keszler, Rot Summer Smoothes, Icons, 2021
Barrington Levy, The Vibes is Right, Here I Come, 1985
The Durutti Column, Sketch for a Summer, The Return of the Durutti Column, 1980
Lion, You’ve Gotta Woman, But Do I, 1975
Pooka, Sex On, Graham Robert Wood, 1995
Quincy Jones, Summer in the City, You’ve Got it Bad Girl, 1973
San Sebastian Strings, You Even Taste Like the Summer, The Sea, 1967
Cathy Claret, Le Lundi Au Soleil, Cathy Claret, 1989
Blue Gene Tyranny, Any Fine Afternoon (1983), Degrees of Freedom Found, 2021
Sun Ra Arkestra, The Satellites are Spinning / Lights on a Satellite, Swirling, 2020
The Awakening, Glory to the Sun, Mirage, 1973
Jon Hassell, Nightsky [the living city], City: Works of Fiction, 1990 (re-issued in 2014)




I’ve been haunted by a faint hum, an electric touch, and would like talk about the Sixth Sense. In medical terms, the Sixth Sense could be Proprioception, the ability for our bodies to locate themselves in space. It is an intuition, an innate knowledge. It’s deeply rooted in our sense of right or wrong.

We’ll turn to the British Columbia artist, filmmaker, and poet Ellie Epp, whose 1996 film Bright & Dark will be our guiding light as we work through notions of feeling, improvisation, chance, and preparation. We’ll also turn to Fred Moten, and his writing on Cecil Taylor’s Chinampas, and to Divided Publishing’ new publication, Stage of Recovery by the artist and activist Georgia Sagri.


  • As always, thanks to Roger 3000 for providing Something Like’s jingle
  • The music behind my voice today is Monsieur de Saint Colombe’s Works for 2 Bass Viols, by Voix Humaines
  • You can read about Ellie Epp’s work on her website and in this PDF of Mike Hoolboom’s book on her work. Thank you to Ellie for your generous spirit and for sharing your work with us, and thank you to Adrienne Herr for the universal synchronicity of her attentions by bringing Ellie to us!
  • You can find Fred Moten’s Sound in Florescence: Cecil Taylor’s Floating Garden (first published in Sound States, edited by Adalaide Morris, University of North Carolina Press, 1997) here on Ubuweb.
  • Pick up Georgia Sagri’s Stage of Recovery here.


Jeanne Lee, Sundance, Conspiracy, 1975
Ellie Epp, Bright & Dark (description read by Bitsy), 1996
Lee Roetman, Life is a Changing Composition Flow , Peace and Love from Lee, 1971
Carman Moore, Improvisation, Personal Problems, 2020
Infinity Knives, Sway Me, Sway Me Into the Arms of the Lord, Dear Sudan, 2020
Bjork, Sweet Sweet Intuition, Post, 1995
Sue Tompkins, Ruin, 2017
Oakland Elementary School Arkestra, Butter, Big Instruments, Little Musicians, 1994
Cecil Taylor, 5’04, Chinampas, 1987
CC Hennix, Blues Alif Mim in the Modes of Rag Infinity, “Live at Issue Project Room”, 2016
David Rosenboom & Peggie Sampson, The Seduction of Sapientia (excerpt), The Contemporary Viola di Gamba, 1973-74
Maria Chavez, The Language of Chance #1, Live at Le Guess Who, 2018
Celia Hollander, You Have 3 New Telepathic Messages, Recent Futures, 2020
Rachika Nayar, New Strands, Our Hands Against the Dusk, 2021
Seigén Ono, Model-93, Seigen, 1984
Georgia Sagri, Performance Study Group in Zurich (excerpt read by Bitsy), Stage of Recovery, 2021
YOM, Celebration, Celebration, 2021
Brother Ah, Spirits in the Night, Move Ever Onward, 1975 (reissued in 2016)
Piero Umiliani, Isola di Sogno, La Consolazione Della Pietra, 1967
Lafawndah, The Stillness, The Fifth Season, 2020
Andy Bey, I Know This Love Can’t Be Wrong, Experience & Judgement, 1973
Ellie Epp, Ready (read by Bitsy)




I should probably preface this episode by saying that I’m not, myself, currently in a state of heartbreak. But perhaps because this is such an inevitable state, it’s the episode I’ve been asked to make the most often. Almost everyone will experience some kind of brutal breakup in their life, some kind of agonising heartbreak, some kind of lonely heart, some kind of crushing love sickness. At that time, it may seem like the most crushing, most distracting, most viscerally painful experience you’ve ever gone through. Luckily, there are more breakup and heartbreak poems and songs out there to get you through this time than there are hours of staring at your ceiling pouring over the minutiae of your last conversation with your ex. Take care, you lonely hearts, it doesn’t last forever.


  • As always, Something Like’s intro jingle comes courtesy of Roger 3000
  • The music behind my voice this week is Pauline Oliveros’ The Beauty of Sorrow, from Tara’s Room, 2019
  • You can learn more about Alex Turgeon’s art and writing here: and pick up Love Poems for Ceres at Broken Dimanche Press.



Connie Converse, Talkin Like You (Two Tall Mountains), How Sad, How Lovely, 2015
Alex Turgeon (read by Bitsy), Even Cowboys Get the Blues, Love Poems for Ceres, 2017
The Shangri-La’s, Past, Present, Future, 1966
Nona Hendryx, Tears, Skindiver, 1989
Panxing, How, Slowmusic, 2021
Annie Lennox, Primitive, Diva, 1992
Susan Stone/Melody Sumner Carnahan, Ruby’s Story, The Time is Now, 1997
Etta James, I’d Rather Be Blind (Live at Montreux), 1975
Kath Bloom & Loren Mazzacane, My Stupid Little Heart, Sand in My Shoe, 1983
Woo, Sad Hearts, A La Luna, 1991
Tracey Thorn, Too Happy, A Distant Shore, 1982
OCA, I Believe in You, Aging, 2019
Kate Bush, Ne T’enfuis Pas, The Single File, 1983
Anne Carson, Chapter XIII: Water (read by Bitsy), Autobiography of Red, 1998
Marzieh, مرضیه – مجنون (Majnoon), The Best of Marzieh, 2001
George Michael, Jesus to a Child, Older 1996
Lewis, Fallin Down, Hawaiian Breeze, 2015
Charmaine Lee, U Tried, A Stone Widens It, 2020
Everything Play, ロミオとジュリエット (Romeo & Juliet), Everything Play, 1992
Audre Lorde, Movement Song (ready by Bitsy), From a Land Where Other People Live, 1973
Mao & Friends, It’s Too Late, Call on Me, 1972
Pulp, There’s No Emotion, Freaks, 1987
Little Ann, Deep Shadows, Deep Shadows, 2009 (originally 1967)
Candi Staton, You Don’t Love Me No More, 1972
Diamanda Galás, I’m Going to Live the Life, Malediction & Prayer, 2018
Mary Ann Daly, New Life, Heart, 1975




Right now, outside my window, thousands upon thousands of juicy buds are aching to unfurl. Newness in electric green, swaying violently as they contend with the changing wind. A harrowing moment to emerge, to open yourself up again, to take on a new shape, but that’s the way of Spring, right?

This is an episode of Something Like that looks at newness in its revelatory, ritualistic form, but also in its anxiety, the stress and also the exhilaration of meeting a moment, of opening oneself up to a moment.

  • As always, thank you to my dearest friend Roger 3000 for providing Something Like’s jingle
  • The music under my voice today is Larkin’s O’Cean (1980)


Floating Points, Pharoah Sanders, London Symphony Orchestra, Promises, March 2021

Brother Ah, Transcendental March, Sound Awareness: Move Ever Onward, 1975, reissued in 2016

Theatre of Nature, Anna von Hausswolff, All Thoughts Fly, 2020

Popol Vuh, Kyrie, Tantric Songs/Hosianna Mantra, 1991

Wojciech Rusin, Dance, The Funnel, 2019

Rachika Nayar, The Trembling of Glass, Our Hands Against the Dusk, 2021

Dialect, Yamaha Birds Pt. 2, Under ~ Between, 2021

Everything Play, 君に輝く太陽を感じよう (Feel The Sun), Everything Play, 1992

Kendra Smith, Iridescence, The Guild of Temporal Adventurers, 1992

Irena and Vojtěch Havlovi, In the Garden, Melodies in the Sand, 2021

Laurence Brisset (Hildegard v. Bingen), Hodie Aperuit, Gemme, 2015

Maggie Payne, Shimmer, Ahh-Ahh, 2020

Leona Hirota (広田玲央名), Flower, Leona, 1985

Mad Music Inc. 11, Mad Music, 1977, reissued in 2016

Koh-Tao, Moon in the Lake, Tayu Tayu (たゆたゆ), 1997

Alice Coltrane, Spring Rounds from Rite of Spring, Eternity, 1976


In this special 30th episode of Something Like, we look at the glistening, darkened, persistent paths that water carves, producing new life in the process. A year into recording Something Like from my bedroom in Kreuzberg, we’ll also look into the cyclical quality of water, and so its place in memory. We’ll return to the observance of its dual states: wetness and dryness, high tide and low tide, the shore and the depths of a pool. To navigate all of this, we have Alejandra Pizarnik’s 1962 poem Caminos des Espejo as a guide, this time read by the poet Mayra Rodríguez Castro from her current home in La Esperanza, Colombia—one of the rainiest places in the world.


  • Special thanks to Mayra for her contributions to this episode!
  • Thanks as always to Roger 3000 for providing us with Something Like’s jingle
  • The music behind my voice in this episode is from Toshiya Sukegawa’s (助川敏弥), Bioçic Music Aqua (バイオシック・ミュージック 「水」),1993


Mayra A. Rodríguez Castro is a poet and translator. Rodríguez is the editor of Dream of Europe: Selected Seminars and Interviews (Kenning Editions, 2020). Her translations include the Pornomiseria Manifesto by Luis Ospina and Carlos Mayolo (2017) and Ecogenoethnocide by Santiago Arboleda Quiñonez (2018). Here is an interview with Mayra speaking about Audre Lorde, Dream of Europe: Selected Seminars and Interviews, a book that Mayra edited and released with Kenning Editions last year.


Ladan Osman is a poet, born in Somalia and raised in Columbus, Ohio. She earned a BA from Otterbein University and an MFA from the University of Texas at Austin’s Michener Center for Writers. In 2014 her poetry collection The Kitchen Dweller’s Testimomy won the annual Sillerman First Book Prize for African Poets. Osman lives in Chicago. Read her poem Water at Narrative Magazine.


Alejandra Pizarnik was a poet, born in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1936. She studied philosophy and literature at the University of Buenos Aires before dropping out to pursue painting and her own poetry. She lived in Paris from 1960–64. She published eight books of poetry before her death in 1972 at age 36, by suicide.


Here is Lydia Merriman Herrick’s English translation of Caminos del Espejo from the Spanish:

Paths of the Mirror


And above all gazing with innocence. As if nothing were happening, which is true.


But I want to look at you until your face moves far from my fear like a bird on the sharp edge of night.


Like a little girl drawn with pink chalk on an ancient wall suddenly erased by the rain.


Like when a flower opens up and reveals the heart it doesn’t have.


All the gestures of my body and my voice to make an offering out of me, the branch that leaves the wind on the threshold.


Cover the memory of your face with the mask of the one you’ll be and frighten the little girl that you were.


Their shared night dispersed with the fog. It’s the season of cold nourishment.


And thirst, my memory is of thirst, I below, in the bottom, in the well, I would drink, I remember.


To fall like a wounded animal in the place that was going to be revelatory.


Like someone who doesn’t want something. Not a thing.

Sewn mouth. Sewn eyelids. I forgot. Inside, the wind.

Everything closed and the wind inside.


Words turned golden in the black sun of silence.


But silence is certain. That’s why I write. I’m alone and I write.

No, I’m not alone. There’s someone here who trembles.


Even if I say sun and moon and star I refer to things that happen to me.

And what did I want?

I wanted the perfect silence.

That’s why I speak.


Night takes the form of a wolf’s howl.


The pleasure of getting lost in the premonitory image. I arose from my corpse, I went looking for who I am. Wanderer from myself, I’ve gone towards she who sleeps in a country to the wind.


My endless fall into my endless fall where nobody awaited me, since upon seeing who was waiting I saw none other than myself.


Something was falling in the silence. My last word was I but I was referring to the luminous dawn.


Yellow flowers in a circular constellation of blue earth. The wind-filled water quakes.


Glare of the day, yellow birds in the morning. A hand unleashes darkness, a hand drags the hair of a drowned woman who doesn’t cease passing by the mirror. To return to the memory of the body, I have to return to my grieving bones, I have to understand what my voice says.


Sun Ra Arkestra, Sea of Darkness / Darkness, Swirling, 2020

Mayra Castro Rodríguez reads Alejandra Pizarnik’s Caminos del Espejo, 1962

Dorothy Carter, Along the River, Waillee Waillee, 1978

The Growth Eternal, V. My Storm at Sea, Bass Tone Paintings, 2020

Laila Sakini, The Potion in the Pool (Flora Yang Remix), 2020

Flesh & Bone, Ocean Song, Skeleton Woman, 1992

Nobue Kawana, あのとき限りの私たち (A no toki kagiri no watashitachi), Nobue’s Sea, 1975

Ana Roxanne, Venus, Because of a Flower, 2020

Né Ladeiras, Húmus Verde, Alhur, 1982

Fred Simon & Liz Cifani, Time and the River, Time and the River, 1995

Rock & Waves Song Circle, I, Rock & Waves Song Circle, 2016

Brian Bennett, The Sea, Nature Watch, 1982

O Terno, Profondo/Superficial, <atrás além=””>, 2019

Ursula K. Le Guin & Todd Barton, A River Song, Music & Poetry of the Kesh, 1985 (2018)

Kay Gardner, Atlantis Rising, Emerging, 1978

Cris Williamson, Waterfalls, The Changer and the Changed, 1975

Mayra Rodríguez Castro, lluvia, 2021</atrás>


How is it that for every song about the special kind of love of friendship, there are hundreds about breaking up? In celebration of Valentine’s Day coming up, this 29th episode of Something Like plumbs acid folk and avant-garde composition alike to search out the love involved between friends, and what that could mean. This is no invective against romantic love but we might take a renewed look at a couple of love songs, asking if they could apply to your best friend too.


  • Special thanks to Rosa & Dylan Aiello, Nooa Avo, Oopie Ghosh & Nadia Jones, Orsod Malik, Hoora Sarajan, and Camilla Wills for their excellent input into the making of this episode! Happy Valentines Day, my friends! Will you be my valentine? I choo choo choose you!


  • As ever, Something Like’s jingle comes courtesy of my dearest friend, Roger 3000. Check out the precious new release on his imprint Tundra Records by DJ New Smile here.


  • HONEY is a riso printed zine meditating on the experiences of friendship. The project was conceived by two friends who recognised non-familial connections were entirely formative to their politics, welfare and identities, but observed a marked lack of attention on modern forms of friendship in print media. Order your copy of Honey here and check them out on instagram.


  • Orsod Malik is a Sudani curator, editor and digital archivist. He is the founder of @code__switch, an archive/continuum of radical internationalism and a curator at the Stuart Hall Foundation. His work attempts to draw links between yesterday’s anti-imperial struggles and immediate conjunctures.


  • adrienne maree brown is a writer, a pleasure activist, a sci-fi/Octavia Butler scholar, a facilitator (non-active), a speaker/singer (including wedding singer) and a doula living in Detroit. I read an excerpt from their Coevolution Through Friendship (February 5, 2013), which was published in HONEY.


  • Cat Cohen is a comedian and writer. Nooa Avo read her poem, poem I wrote after I looked at your jawline and it ruined my life


  • Sandra M. Gilbert (born December 27, 1936) is an American literary critic and poet who has published in the fields of feminist literary criticism, feminist theory, and psychoanalytic criticism. I read her poem, Thinking About an Old Friend (1980).


  • Emily Brontë was a British writerIn this episode, I read her poem Love and Friendship.


Nikki Giovanni, Two Friends, The Reason I Like Chocolate, 1976

Bebe K’Roche, Strong and Free, Be Be K’Roche, 1976

Gary Shearston, Friend to Me, I Get a Kick out of You, 1974

Julia Holter, Moni Mon Ami, Ekstasis, 2012

Brady Cohan, Oliver and Me, Studies Vol. 1, 2020

Jenny Hval (feat. Laura Jean Englert & Vivian Wang), The Practice of Love, The Practice of Love, 2019

Kirby Shelstad and Richard Allen, Just Friends, Peaceful Solutions, 1984

Frank Harris & Maria Marquez, Bein’ Green, Echoes, 2019

Heather Leigh, Prelude to Goddess, Throne, 2018

René Aubry & Jean Schwarz – Five Women, Still Waters: Ballet De Carolyn Carlson, 1986

Tirzah, No Romance, No Romance, 2014

Dylan Henner, We Could Hear them Singing From Across The Valley, The Invention of the Human, 2020

Beverly Glenn Copeland, Nothing Beautiful, Beverly Copeland, 1970

Laraaji, Moods and Emotions, The Piano Trilogy, 2021

Kinoko Gumo, Please Give a Name to the Small Life, Kokoro O Utau, 1972

Dne, Friends Cleanse, These Semi-Feelings, They Are Everywhere, 2016

Jill Caslaghi, Friend of Mine, Friends of Mine, 1977

Scott Seskind, I Remember, Chance, 1990

Lou Reed, She’s My Best Friend, Coney Island Baby, 1976

Julian Cope, Sunspots, Fried, 1984

Bob Reitman, A Few Thoughts, The Eleventh House, 1971

Johnny Frierson, Have You Been Good to Yourself, Have you Been Good to Yourself, 2016



This is an episode that started as a meditation on waiting, and became an episode about the distillation of time and the experience of time passing: its expansions and contractions. Our lodestars in this sense will be two great proponents of free jazz: the musician/researcher/educator/gardener/martial artist Milford Graves and the writer/educator/poet/filmmaker Amiri Baraka. We’ll be looking at time as irregular, subjective—its passage expressed elastically. Mostly, we’ll be looking at patience and its ritualisation. We’ll search for strategies in music to be in time, and so perhaps to account for its passage not in terms one’s own subjective experience of it, but in terms of existing within its inevitability.

Hang in there, friends.

  • As ever, Something Like’s jingle is provided by my brilliant friend and collaborator Roger 3000, who has an adorable new track out on bandcamp now.
  • You can listen to Amiri Baraka’s complete 1985 lectures at Naropa University here.
  • You can watch Milford Graves: Full Mantis here.



Milford Graves, Milford Graves: Full Mantis, dir. By Jake Meginsky, Neil Cloaca Young, 2018

Ka Baird, Isentropic, Bespires, May 2020

Barbara Golden / Melody Sumner Carnahan, My Pleasure, The Time is Now, 1997

White Light, We Sat Together, White Light, 1982

Loris S. Sarid, Orrizontale Verticale, Music for Tomato Plants, 2020

Celia Hollander, Spared Time, Recent Futures, 2020

AM 4, And She Answered: Mi-La, …And She Answered, 1989

Anadol, 78 ((yetmiş sekiz) Yılının En Uzun Dakikası, Uzun Havalar, 2019

Patricia Brennan, Improvisation VI, Maquishti, 2021

Amiri Baraka, On Class, Speech, Rhythm, Sound, and Music, Naropa University, 1985

Sarah Davachi, Accord of Voice I, Laurus, 2020

Neil Young, I’ve Been Waiting for You, Sugar Mountain – Live at Canterbury House, 1968

His Name is Alive, Tape Slow, A Silver Thread (Home Recordings 1989 – 1990), 2021

Bitsy Knox & Roger 3000, Walking, OM COLD BLOOD, 2018

Gavin Bryars, Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet, The Sinking of the Titanic / Jesus’ Blood Never Failed Me Yet, 1975

Ah 2020, what is the soundtrack to your misery? This episode of Something Like, the last of this goddess-forsaken year, cycles back through past episodes and past moments to plumb the music that marked time this year.


Blue Gene Tyranny, Leading a Double Life, Out of the Blue, 2019
White Light, I Want You to Know Me, White Light, 1982
Silvia Tarozzi, Al Cancello, Mi Specchio e Rifletto, 2020
Mich Live, Planet E, Message from Heart, 1986
Pyrolator, Gespraech mit der Erde, Wunderland, 1984
Mikrokosmos, Another Time, This Time, One Time, Another Time, This Time, One Time, 2020
Lyu Hongjun (劉宏軍), フルスーの景 (Furusu No Kei) , 大地の詩 (Songs Of The Earth), 1988
Carman Moore, Love Trouble, Personal Problems, 2020
Björk, The Anchor Song, Debut, 1993
Alabaster DuPlume, Visit Croatia, To Cy & Lee: Instrumentals Vol. 1, 2020
Keeley Forsyth, Look To Yourself, Debris, 2020
Duval Timothy, Same, Help, 2020
Gia Margaret, sadballad, Mia Gargaret, 2020
Roger 3000, Tu Ne Meurs Pas, Fiftine, 2020
Iceblink, Cellphone in the Bath, Carpet Cocoon, 2020
Ana Roxanne, Camille, Because of a Flower, 2020
Nailah Hunter, Bassin Bleu, 2020
Jay Electronica feat. The Dream, Ezekiel’s Wheel, A Written Testimony, 2020
Sun Ra Arkestra, Seductive Fantasy, Swirling, 2020


This year, in lieu of getting sloppy in velvet at Christmas parties, howling at the Solstice moon, shooting arrows and shooting back Thor’s Hammer at the Schloss Britz Weihnachtsmarkt, wrapping white elephant gifts for the Christmas Pyjama Jamboree, and basically living in the reflection of a Christmas tree ornament, I made a special holiday episode of Something Like, and invited some of my favourite people in the world to send over their holiday greetings.

Each message feels like the best little sonic xmas gift I could ever ask for, and I can’t wait to share them with you. Thanks to Julien Meert, Elif Saydam, Michele di Menna & Max Brand & Mina, Camila McHugh, Sascha Garrey & Daniel Girard, Tim Koh, Alex Turgeon, Viviana Abelson, Céline Gillain, Joseph Kusendila, Leon Eisermann, Rosa Aiello, Anna Łuczak, Emma LaMorte, Louise O’Kelly & Paulo Andres Gonzalez, Nooa Avo, and Margie & Tony Knox for sending over your messages; you’ve warmed my heart more than you can know! Also sending love to all those who couldn’t send something along, I’m sharing this episode with you in particular.

Happy holidays, Merry (Happy) Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Winter Solstice, everybody! This lonely year is almost over. Almost time for another.

  • Check out Artist Charity Aid Network (A.C.A.N.) on Instagram and support the charities participating artists have chosen! Plenty of last minute xmas gifts for great causes!
  • Check out this list posted by A.C.A.N. telling Berliners where they can donate clothing, food, money, and supplies over the holiday season and all year round.
  • Another idea: Tim Koh’s new album “In Your Dreams”, out now on Bandcamp and the holiday episode of Kokonut Trip on NTS.


Roger 3000, Jingle Bells, 2020

Marvin Gaye, Purple Snowflakes, 1964

Home Alone “I’ll Give it a Whirl”, 1990

Vince Guaraldi Trio, Christmas Time is Here, A Charlie Brown Christmas, 1965

It’s Christmas Time, The Qualities, 1960

Eurythmics, Winter Wonderland, A Very Special Christmas, 1987

Jun Togawa, 降誕節 (The Nativity), Wish With You A Merry Christmas, 1983

Elif Saydam’s Top 5 of 2020

The Patti Smith Group (Radio Ethiopia Field Marshall), White Christmas, 1978

Eddie Daniels, Sleigh Ride, A GRP Christmas Collection, 1988

YTV Santa Calls, 1997

Pastor T.L. Barrett and the Youth for First Choir, Jingle Bells Part 1, 1971

Michele di Menna, Max Brand, Mina

Cocteau Twins, Frosty the Snowman, Snow (EP), 1993

Kate Bush, December Will Be Magic Again, 1980

Vince Guaraldi Trio, O Tannenbaum, A Charlie Brown Christmas, 1965

A Message from Camila McHugh

Coil, Christmas is Now Drawing Near, Winter Solstice (North), 1999

Sascha Garrey & Daniel Girard, Deck The Halls, 2020

Karina Skye, We Three Witches, Pagan Yule Carols (Wiccan Holiday Music), 2012

Viviana Abelson, 2020


Beverly Glenn Copeland, Winter Astral, Keyboard Fantasies, 1986

Joseph Kusendila, Le Frêne (The Ash Tree), read by William Gallab

The Choir of Chester Cathedral, Song of the Nuns of Chester (1425), Glory to the New-Born King – Christmas Music Sung by the Choir of Chester Cathedral, 2012

Betty Arden, Funny Bells, 2020

YTV Santa Calls 1997

Suicide, Hey Lord (1981), ZE A Christmas Record, 1981

Alex Turgeon, 2020

Special EFX, Silent Night, 1988

Tim Koh, Little Drummer Boy, 2020

Haruomi Hosono, 25 December 1983, We Wish You A Merry Christmas, 1984

Louise & Paulo in London, 2020

Choir of King’s College, Cambridge, Ding Dong Merrily on High, 2010

Little Women, Ding Dong Merrily on High,1994

A message from Emma LaMorte, 2020

J.S. Bach, Christmas Oratorio, BMW 248 Part Two: For the Second Day of Christmas, No. 10, 1734 (performed by Anthony Rolfe Johnson, English Baroque Soloists, John Eliot Gardiner, 1987)

A message from Anna Łuczak, 2020

Nina Simone, I am Blessed, Broadway Blues Ballads, 1964

Stevie Wonder, Someday at Christmas, Someday at Christmas, 1967

Dave Grusin, Some Children See Him, A GRP Christmas Collection, 1988

An interview with Leon Eisermann from A.C.A.N.

A message from Rosa Aiello, 2020

Prince, Another Lonely Christmas, Purple Rain, 1993 (first as a B-Side on I Would Die For U, 1984)

Tom Recchion, A Christmas Filled with Tears, Where Were You on Christmas, 2006

Taeko Ohnuki, Inori (To Nobody), We Wish You A Merry Christmas, 1984

A message from Nooa Avo, 2020

Joni Mitchell, River, Blue, 1971

A message from Margie and Tony Knox, 2020

Choir of King’s College, Cambridge / Patrick Hadley, I Sing a Maiden, 2012

Choir of King’s College, Cambridge, Once in a Royal Davids City (Desc. Stephen Cleobury), 2017




Female ascetics, hermits, wise women, and witches, and the lore that circles around this archetype is what we will be exploring in the 25th episode of Something Like: Hag Lore. I’m very pleased to be sharing this episode with some wonderful friends and artists who share my fascination with this archetype. We’re going to listen to a reading by the Canadian artist Rochelle Goldberg, a reading from Don Quixote by the Canadian Berlin-based artist Elif Saydam, sound recordings by the British Berlin-based artist and music from the Berlin based artist and musician Anchoress (Anna-Lucia Nissen & Alex Rathborne). And so we’re going to also look at female-identifying characters who chose a life of seclusion, who removed themselves from the material world: the Desert Mothers, the anchoresses of medieval christianity, and perhaps even some contemporary evolutions of this type. We’ll delve into what is behind the fascination with the notion of female recluses.


  • As always, Something Like’s intro jingle comes courtesy of my main bud Roger 3000
  • Big thanks to Anna-Lucia Nissen, Beth Collar, Elif Saydam, and Rochelle Goldberg for their invaluable contributions to this episode!
  • Check out Chris Newby’s 1993 film Anchoress here.
  • Learn more about Rochelle Goldberg’s Born in a Beam of Light here.
  • A useful resource in relation to the themes picked up in this episode is of course, The Caliban and the Witch: Women, the Body, and Primitive Accumulation, by Silvia Federici.



Adult Fantasies, Under A Steelplate Sky, Towers of Silence, 2020, originally from the album For the Time Being, 1989

Rochelle Goldberg feat. Veit Laurent Kurz & Yanik Soland, Born in a Beam of Light, 2020

Wilburn Burchette, Birth of a Witch, Guitar Grimoire, 1973

Beth Collar Reads the Civil wars: A Tree is Best Measured When it is Down (David Byrne, Gavin Bryars, and Philip Glass and Robert Wilson), 1984

Keeley Forsyth, Glass, Photograph EP, 2020

Okkyung Lee, The Longest Morning, Yeo-Neun, 2020

Stevie Nicks, Rhiannon (Piano version), Enchanted, 1998

Nailah Hunter, Ruins, Spells, 2020

Anchoress, Eternal, In Times Where Eyes are Low, 2020

Kassia (University of King’s College Chapel Choir), Hymn of Kassia, 2009

Alanis Obomsawin, Bush Lady Part II, Bush Lady, 2018

Ana Roxanne, Take the Thorn, Leave the Rose, Because of a Flower, 2020

Elif Saydam Reads Cervantes’ Don Quixote, Chapters 12 & 14

Silvia Tarozzi, Hai nella bocca un silenzio, Mi Specchio e Refletto, 2020

Kenneth Anger, Hermit, Puce Moments, 1949

Kay Gardner, Wise Woman, Moon Circles, 1975



The voice lives inside and outside of our bodies, simultaneously. When you speak, or sing, or hum, you’re moving mass inside of your own body and mass around you. Like colours and smells, different tones and different vowels have specific effects on different parts of our bodies. These are some basic principles that the healing music researcher, flautist, Dianic priestess, teacher and lesbian music pioneer Kay Gardner (1941–2002) outlined so prolifically in her writings and audio recordings, Music as Medicine (1997-8). In this episode of Something Like, we’re going to invoke Gardner to guide us through the potential of our own voices to heal ourselves and others. Meanwhile, we’ll step through vocal and traditional choral traditions and innovations.


  • As always, Something Like’s jingle music is by Roger 3000
  • The music under my voice this week is Pauline Oliveros’ Accordian and Voice (1982)
  • You can find all of Kay Gardner’s Music as Medicine sessions on Youtube, and more information about her research in her 1997 book Sounding the Inner Landscape
  • Originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio



Roomful of Teeth, Partita for 8 Voices Part 4: Passacaglia, Partita for 8 Voices (Caroline Shaw), 2016
Kay Gardner, Session 2: Healing & The Aura, Music as Medicine, The Art & Science of Healing with Sound, 1998
Geinoh Yamashirogumi, Agba’a, Africa Genjoh 1994 (originally Selections of African Folk Music, 1982)
Anonymous (from Orune): Cantu a Tenore Trattu’e Orune
Buffy Sainte Marie, Poppies, Illuminations, 1969
CoH & Cosi Fanni Tutti, Lying, CoH Plays Cosey, 2008
Pamela Z, Obsession, Addiction, and the Aristotelian Curve, Pamela Z: A Delay Is Better, 1993
Kay Gardner, Session 2: Healing & The Aura, Music as Medicine, The Art & Science of Healing with Sound, 1998
Matana Roberts, Jewels of the Sky: Inscription, Coin Coin Chapter Four: Memphis, 2019
Judith Hamann, Humming Suite III – Harmonics étude for one cello and one voice, Music for Cello and Humming, 2020
Hildegard v. Bingen, O Cohort of the the Army of the Flower, O nobilissima viriditas: The Complete Hildegard von Bingen, Vol. 3, 2004, Celestial Harmonies
Dylan Henner, I Was Reading the News But I Felt So Sad I Had To Stop, The Invention of the Human, 2020
David Hykes & the Harmonic Choir, Multiplying Voices At the Heart of the Body of Sound, Hearing Solar Winds, 1983
Kay Gardner, Session 2: Healing & The Aura, Music as Medicine, The Art & Science of Healing with Sound, 1998
Ustá, GLAS Choral Music of the Soviet Union, 1989 (excerpt)



Sometimes we can feel change coming, fermenting inside of us. Sometimes we know the texture, the feel of that change, before we know its shape. This is an episode dedicated to pawing the burlap and stroking the velvet of what is to come. We’ll look at potential, intention, and drudgery in the pursuit of what is nascent and waiting to bubble forth, ready to drink and produce newness. This episode takes its cues from Sally Potter’s 1993 film adaptation of Virginia Woolf’s Orlando, with a soundtrack by David Motion, Jimmy Sommerville, and Potter herself.


  • As always, jingle music is courtesy of Roger 3000
  • The music under my voice this week is from Laurie Spiegel’s “The Expanding Universe”
  • I read passages from Octavia Butler’s “Parable of the Talents” and Madeline Miller’s “Circe” that you should definitely seek out from your local bookseller or borrow from a friend.
  • Originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio


David Motion, The Maze, Orlando Soundtrack, 1993
Beth Anderson, I Can’t Stand It, Sugar, Alcohol, and Meat (Dial-A-Poet), 1980
TRJJ, Emulation of History (Disguised Drums), TRJJ Music Compilation: 12 Dances, 2019
Gurdjieff/de Hartmann, The Struggle of the Magicians, Part 3, I Am the Center: Private Issue New Age Music In America 1950-1990, 2013
Duval Timothy, feat. Lil Silvia and Melanie Faye, Fall Again, Help, 2020
Flesh & Bone, Compassion (The Untangling), Skeleton Woman, 1992
Elodie Lauten, Death As a Woman, The Death of Don Juan, 1985
Adrian Piper, Mythic Being (excerpt), 1973
Du Yun, The Ocean Within, Le Poisson Rouge, NYC, 2012
Massive Attack, Unfinished Sympathy, Blue Lines, 1991
Mikrokosmos (Steffani Jemison and Justin Hicks), Another Time, This Time, One Time, 2020
Lyra Pramuk, New Moon, Fountain, 2020
Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, Carrying Gravity, The Mosaic of Transformation, 2020
The Caretaker, I Still Feel as Though I am Me, Everywhere at the end of Time, 2016
Bedouine, Come Down in Time, Come Down in Time, 2018
Nailah Hunter, White Flower Dark Hill, Spells, 2020
Jimmy Sommerville, Coming, Orlando Soundtrack, 1993
David Bowie, Changes, Hunky Dory, 1971



≈≈ An important disclaimer for Something Like listeners: Please, please, please do NOT pick and eat wild mushrooms unless you are an experienced forager, or are doing so with an experienced forager. Even then, be sure to thoroughly consult and cross-reference field guides before you put any wild mushroom in your belly. The devil is in the details: If you’re not sure of what you have, err on the side of caution. Most mushrooms won’t kill you, but some (like many amanitas) almost certainly will. Know the details of what you want to pick, and know the common symptoms of poisoning (like S.L.U.D.G.E.). And hey, even if you don’t yet feel comfortable picking mushrooms to eat, that doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy getting low and appreciating these fascinating little guys! ≈≈


Takamato ridge, crowded with expanding caps,

filling up, thriving—

the wonder of autumn aroma.

From the eighth-century Japanese poetry collection Man-nyo Shu


Gary Snyder, that great Beat writer and partner to Joanne Kyger, spoke of mushrooms as “the completion of the work of a poet”. The emergent fruits of the vast informational subterranean web known as mycelia are fed by decaying matter, and the “immediate biomass of perception, sensation, and thrill”, enacts a process of recycling—a process that both fungi and artists know well. In this episode of Something Like, we take an extended stroll through the forest, scouring edge habitats in search of what we might call the mycological way.

This episode holds plenty of lonnnnnng new age and minimal lingerings, a couple dungeon synth tracks, and hopefully just enough Terrence McKenna to get your otherworldly senses tingling.

I’m what you might call a resolute amateur in all things mycological, so please be kind if I mix up a few details along the way!

  • The albums you hear under my voice are:
  • The Obsolescent Arborist: Tree, Timber and Forest (2018)
  • Coniferous Myst: (2019).
  • Intro jingle tunes provided by my dearest buddy and collaborator, Roger 3000.
  • This episode, like so many things in my life, wouldn’t be possible without the help and forest companionship of another main buddy: Elif Saydam.
  • Here’s some reference material:
    • The Song of the Earth, by Jonathan Bateman (in which he references Gary Snyder)
    • Mushrooms Demystified, by David Arora
    • All that the Rain Promises, by David Arora
    • The Mushroom at the End of the World, by Anna Tsing
    • Fungipedia: A Brief Compendium of Mushroom Lore by Lawrence Millman
  • This episode originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio


Eola, This is the World, Dang, 2016
Gary Snyder, Wild Mushroom Song, The Dial-A-Poem Poets: Biting off the Tongue of a Corpse, 1975
Václav Hálek, Xerocomus moravicus, Hudební atlas hub, 2003
Ella Jenkins, Pretty Trees Around the World, Rhythms Of Childhood, 1963
David Naegele, Temple in the Forest, Temple in the Forest, 1975
Ernst Karel, Mycological (Stereo Version), 2016
Maria Sabína, Mushroom Ceremony Of The Mazatec Indians Of Mexico, 1957
Pauline Anna Strom, Mushroom Trip, Trans​-​Millenia Music, 1983
Konkrete Canticle (Bob Cobbing), Hymn to the Sacred Mushroom, Experiments in Disintegrating Language, 1971
Mycologia, Tippler’s Bane (Coprinopsis atramentaria), Assorted Mushrooms of New England, 2019
Michael Stearns, Light in the Trees, The Storm, 2001
Joseph Shabason, Forest Run, Anne, 2018
Sylvia Plath, Mushrooms, 1959
Trees, Snails Lament, The Garden of Jane Delawney, 1970
Stevie Wonder, Trees, Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants, 1979



“. . . It’s at this moment that I decide to make a change, set up some rules, do something, because when the life of the living moves slow, it speeds the overall sense of time. It gives the impression that life goes by “In a flash,” “In a breath,” “Before you know it.” I decide: 

First, I will forbid the use of any such phrase, including, “Where has the day gone?” including “Already?”. Second, I will do all I can to avoid tradition, which speeds time. Like ritual speeds time. Like routine, which I cannot possibly avoid, speeds time. Third, and most important, because it is something I can control, I will adopt an exercise for slowing time: to place details in time, so to prevent the seamless fold from taking hold. . . ” 

(an excerpt from Calypso Goes out of Favour by Rosa Aiello)


In this very special 21st episode of Something Like, Bitsy speaks with artists Emma LaMorte and Rosa Aiello about Emma’s solo exhibition, Aussicht, in-situ at the Kölnischer Kunstverein, late into the night.

As they go on an ekphrastic exploration through Emma’s exhibition, they ask: what produces a feeling of the continuous present, and how do we move through it? What does the passage of time feel like for an artist—for a new mother—and how does this relate to care, to duty, to patience, to pleasure, and even…to injustice?

Taking a page from Aussicht, this is an episode in four parts, and features an original score by LNS (Laura Sparrow), as well as excerpts from Rosa Aiello’s text for the exhibition, Calypso Goes out of Favour, an excerpt from her novel-in-progress, Calypso’s Way.

Huge thanks to my special guests Rosa Aiello and Emma LaMorte, as well as to Ben Marvin, Laura Sparrow, and of course Miriam Bettin, who curated the exhibition, and was instrumental in helping this episode happen.


  • Aussicht is on view at the Kölnischer Kunstverein now through October 18th, 2020.
  • Emma will be screening Stan Brakhage’s Anticipation of the Night (1958) on October 13th, at 7pm at the Kölnischer Kunstverein. Register here.
  • Hear more of LNS (Laura Sparrow) here and on her bandcamp:
  • As always, thank you to Roger 3000 for providing the music in Something Like’s jingle.
  • This week, the tracks under our conversation include: Brian Eno’s Thursday Afternoon (1985), Alice Coltrane’s Reflection on Creation and Space (1973), and Midori Takada’s Through the Looking Glass (1983)
  • Erratum: I keep referring to Terry Riley and Don Cherry’s Descending Moonshine Dervishes incorrectly (without the important “shine” in that “moon”).
  • This episode was originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio


Day 1, LNS & Rosa Aiello, (Kölnischer Kunstverein, 2020)

Early Dawning, Slow Attack Ensemble, (Music For Turntable Guitars & Sampled Instrument, 2020)

にわとりと蝿 (“Chicken and Flies”) Lyu Hong-Jun (劉宏軍), Songs of the Earth, 1988)

Day 2, LNS & Rosa Aiello, (Kölnischer Kunstverein, 2020)

Her Might Waters Run, Matana Roberts, (Coin Coin Chapter 4, 2019)

Gespraech mit die Erde, Pyrolator, (Wunderland, 1984)

Day 3, LNS & Rosa Aiello, (Kölnischer Kunstverein, 2020)

What is our Life? Orlando Gibbons, (First Set of Madrigals and Motets 1612, performed by the Rodolphus Choir)

Afternoon at heart, Miyane, (August 2020)

Kokorowa, Killing Time, (Irene, 1988)

Blues Alif Lam Mim in the Modes of Rag Infinity (excerpt), (CC Hennix Live at Issue Project Room, 2016)

Day 4, LNS & Rosa Aiello, (Kölnischer Kunstverein, 2020)

Descending Moonshine Dervishes (excerpt), Terry Riley & Don Cherry with Karl Berger (Live in Cologne, 1975)

Alone in the Night, Michael Small, (Klute, 1971)

Night Thoughts, John Zorn, (A Vision in Blakelight, 2012)

Woman of the Night, Sally Oldfield, (Celebration, 1980)


“Apocalypse is a sense of time”, writes the artist and writer Rosa Aiello: “an end-point at which something is revealed.”

In 557, ten years after the first plague pandemic—Justinian’s Plague—wiped out 40% of Constantinople’s population, an earthquake destroyed much of the city, including the Hagia Sofia, then only 20-odd years old. Self-appointed Christian prophets popped up everywhere, warning that the End was Nigh. Many of the city’s citizens suddenly changed their ways, conducting more honest business and giving money to the church. This sudden change in people’s behaviour did not go unnoticed, and has long since become a mode of control, but also a conceptual framework within which humans have learned to, in the words of medieval scholar James Palmer, conceptualise, stimulate, and direct change. Apocalypticism, writes Palmer, is about humans needing an ending. But apocalypticism is a 19th century concept. In the Middle Ages, the word apocalypse in a general sense referred to “insight, vision, hallucination.” An uncovering, not an ending.

Back in December 2012, on the eve of the Mayan Codex Apocalypse, thousands of people gathered on top of a sacred mountain village in the French Pyrenées called Bugarach, awaiting salvation from the Rapture by an alien civilization. The mountain is steeped in mythology: geologically, its summit is older than its base. Cathars were massacred here, and the mountain’s caves are thought to be entry-points to a mystical subterranean civilisation known as Agartha. Later, Bugarach became the inspiration for Jules Vernes’ Journey to the Centre of the Earth, which in turn was a central inspiration for Steven Spielberg’s “first contact” classic, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. 

This was the pretense for a lecture I gave in Marseille, France, a few weeks prior. If apocalypse means revelation, an uncovering, then what if we are in fact living through multiple apocalypses, over and over (as Franny Choi writes of in her poem, The World Keeps Ending, and the World Goes On)? What if we aren’t the protagonists of our own stories, but its background actors running amok, being eaten by zombies and washed away by tidal waves? And, as medieval scholars have often asked, why do we humans need an ending so badly, but can never imagine ourselves ending?

This special 20th episode of Something Like will explore Endzeitfragmente (to borrow a term from the Sequentia album of the same name): “End Times” music. This is music about endings, and music made for and about the (primarily Judeo-Christian notion of) apocalypse, from the 9th to the 21st centuries. How better to mark an milestone of sorts—a bend in the road— than to ruminate on how the journey might one day end—only to begin again?

We’ll observe the term as Octavia Butler understood it: perhaps the apocalypse is not a singular event, but multitudinous, scattershot, unfolding over a series of seemingly unrelated and yet certainly interconnected climatic, political, economic, and social events. So apocalyptic events are in fact mere moments, but revelatory ones. Revelations of precarity or mortality. In recent years, as the world’s politicians have had to look the facts of climate change in the face and stare down the 2-degree celsius hourglass, they’re also revelations of a surfeit or dearth of agency: of greed and complicity so broad, so terribly normal, that its sudden lack is only met with slack jawed despair. Then what?

Here’s Rosa again:

“Apocalypse is a sense of place. Here we reached the end some time ago, we are past disaster and have survived, wiser, but cut off from the pre-apocalyptic world. Or was it because we had always been cut off—we had used the same images, however distorted, had suffered the same illnesses of body, society, and environment but couldn’t leave, couldn’t circulate as the symbols and commodities did—that our ending came first, discontinuous with and nonetheless a version of the ending they will all face soon.”

  • As always Something Like’s intro jingle music comes courtesy of Roger 3000
  • The music behind my voice in this episode is from David Hopkins’ Gaia, 1987
  • You can read Franny Choi’s The World Keeps Ending, And the World Goes On here
  • Check out Anchoress’ new album, out this week, here.
  • Check out Bitsy Knox & Roger 3000’s new single Extinction Piece, here: (All proceeds go to the WWF).
  • Erratum: in the show I say that the earthquake in Constantinople happened in 556, but it’s 557. I also mis-quoted the title of Franny Choi’s poem in the show. A weird momentary lapse in critical thinking while recording. Sorry!


Mark Pritchard feat. The Space Lady, S.O.S.

Joan Armitrading, Save Me

The Cambridge Singers, Libera Nos, Salva Nos

Nico, Afraid

Alanis Obamsawin, Of the Earth and of the Sea

Anne Waldman, Guro Moe, Deb Googe, Håvard Skaset, Ambrose Bye, Devin Brahja Waldman, Extinction Aria Part II

Bitsy Knox & Roger 3000, Extinction Piece

Franny Choi, The World Keeps Ending, and the World Goes On

Sequentia / Germany Anon. 9th cent. Adducentur

Duval Timothy, Tdagb

Adult Fantasies, Parsi

DJ Richard, Dissolving World

Natalie Mariko, Antichrist

Anchoress, Anxious Clown

Lyu-Hongjun, (劉宏軍) フルスーの景

Shelley, Reproduction is Pollution

Jacqueline Humbert & David Rosenboom, How Much Better if Plymouth Rock Had Landed on the Pilgrims (Section VIII, excerpt)

Masami Tsuchiya, Fear for the Future

IAMDDB, End of the World

Dijvan Gasparyan, I Will Not Be Sad in This World

City mice of the world, do you see stars in the eyes of the country mice as you trudge through the cosmopolitan sludge (that you love)? Country mice of the world, is this when the real work begins? Either way, the end of summer is no time of escape. Or is it?

  • My intro jingle as ever courtesy of the excellent Roger 3000.
  • This episode was originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio


Project Pablo, Intro, Come To Canada You’ll Like it, 2018

Mary Watkins, Leaving All The Shadows Behind, Something’s Moving, 1978

Naomi Shihab Nye, Last August Hours Before the Year 2000, 2005

Green House, Soft Meadow, Six Songs for Invisible Gardens, 2020

Miss Abrams and the Strawberry Point 4th Grade Class, Running in the Green Grass, “Green Grass” / “Sweet Summertime”, 1972

Beverly Glenn-Copeland, Colour of Anyhow, Beverly Glenn Copeland, 1970

Dominique Lawalree, Le Secret Blanc (First Meeting), 2017

Nobuo Uematsu, Phantasmagoria, Phantasmagoria, 1994

The Books, The Lemon of Pink I, The Lemon of Pink, 2003

Susan Cogan, Space Age Primitives, 2015

Lynn Castle, Forest, Rose Colored Corner, 2017 (originally recorded in 1966)

Isturo Shimoda , Like a Child, Love Songs & Lamentations, 1973

Jane Wong, Pastoral Power, 2016

Felicia Atkinson, Lush, The Flower and the Vessel, 2019

Shelleyann Orphan, Southern Bess/ A Field Holler, Helleborine, 1987

Neil Young, Through my Sails, Zuma, 1975

Janice Giteck, Breathing Songs from a Turning Sky, Music from Mills, 1986

Carman Moore, Love Conquers, Personal Problems, 2020

Marjorie van Halteran and Lou Giansante, Dead of Summer, the Sound of Radio, 1982

Vivaldi, L’Orage, Sophie Mutter, Herbert von Karajan, and the Vienna Philharmonic, 1990

Susana Rinaldi, Sur, A Un Semajante, 1993


In her 1985 anti-colonial future-past epic Always Coming Home, Ursula K. LeGuin opens with an archeology of the future, a future people based on indigenous civilizations of Northern California. In the book’s introduction, she writes: “The only way I can think to find them, the only archeology that might be practical, is as follows: You take your child or grandchild in your arms, a young baby, not yet a year old, and go down into the wild oats in the field below the barn. Stand under the oak on the last slope of the hill, facing the creek. Stand quietly. Perhaps the baby will see something, or hear a voice, or speak to somebody there, somebody from home.”

This is an episode about the act of going home, and where that home zone is located.

  • As always, intro music is provided by Roger 3000
  • The background music behind my voice in this episode is from Lucinda Chua’s Improvisations & Meditations from Villa Lena (released by NTS)
  • You can read A.F. Moritz’s Home Again Home Again here
  • You can check out Alex Turgeon’s work here
  • This episode was originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio


Ursula K. Le Guinn & Todd Barton, Homesick Song
Joni Mitchell, Case of You (Live in London, 1983)
Lijadu Sisters, Come on Home
Jeff Majors, Nomad
“Blue” Gene Tyranny, A Letter from Home
Silvia Tarozzi, Mi Specchio e Refletto
Meredith Monk, Memory Song
R Beny, Cascade Symmetry
Judy Mayhan, I’ve been the One
Iris Dement, My Life
Joseph Shabason, I Thought I Could Get Away With It
Laurie Anderson, Is Anybody Home
Valentina Goncharova, Zen Garden
Alex Turgeon, Latch Key
Gia Margaret, No Sleep No Dream
Buffy Sainte Marie, The Dream Tree
Yumiko Morioka, Moon Road
Adrienne Rich, Dreamwood
Nikki Giovanni, Motherhood


What’s your hybrid loner vibe? Are you a cat person or a dog person? Are you an introverted extrovert? Or an extroverted introvert? This episode explores what it might mean to relish in your alone time, that space of solitude so many of us need to recharge our batteries, and go into a very special form of contemplation. To take a page from Frank O’Hara, it can be a dark time, but maybe a richly dark time.


  • As usual, intro music for Something Like is provided by Roger 3000
  • The music behind my voice in this episode is Enno Velthuys’ Different Places (1987)
  • This episode originally aired on Cashmere Radio and on 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio.



Monica, Don’t Take It Personal (Just one of dem days) acapella version
Gigi, Tirut Yebatin Lig
Monsieur de Sainte Colombe (performed by John Dorenburg), Suite for Solo Viola di Gamba, Mov. 1-2/5
Cocteau Twins, Lazy Calm
Arthur Russell, I Never Get Lonesome
Gia Margaret, Apathy
Bitsy Knox & Roger 3000, The Heat Within
Sun Ra & His Arkestra, I Am Trying to Find Myself
Woo, It’s Cosy Inside
Iceblink, Healer
Angel Bat Dawid, The Joy of Living
Donnie & Joe Emerson, Thoughts in My Mind
Hako Yamasaki, Wandering
Valentina Goncharova, Contemplation
Carman Moore, A Personal Story
Mark Hollis, Inside Looking Out
Jackson C. Frank, Dialogue (I Want To Be Alone)
Marieangela, Alone with the Day
Catherine Ribiero, La Solitude
Jacqueline Humbert & David Rosenboom, Talk 2
Moses Sumney, And So I Come to Isolation
Whitney Houston, One of Those Days



It’s officially summer, friends. And where better to spend those dog days than lounging around a grassy knoll, swatting bugs and squinting in the afternoon sun? This is a show dedicated to that very seasonal pursuit, both its languid joys and its tinge of melancholy. We’ll almost ask, is Summer a time for relaxation or revolution? What will the hot weather bring us? Can we bliss out f’days, to take a page from Laraaji?


  • As always, Something Like’s jingle music is by Roger 3000
  • Originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio



Woody Guthrie: Grassy Grass Grass

Alabaster duPlume: Whisky Story Time

Ana Roxanne: Slowness

Stacey Juritz Ravens Keller: Like the Grass (Live in Basel), excerpt

Priscilla Ermell: Meditação

Blake Mills: Summer All Over

Maria Monti: Aria, Terra, Aqua e Fuoco

Vashti Bunyan: Diamond Day

The Weeds ザ・ウィーズ: 日記 Diary

The Sea Urchins: Wild Grass Pictures

June11: A Peaceful Vale

Brigdet St. John: I Like to Be With You in the Sun

Mich Live P: Planet E.1

Brian Eno: A Clearing

Laraaji: I Can Only Bliss Out (f’days)

Honey Harper: Green Shadows

Mary Lattimore: Wind Carries Seed

Joni Mitchell: The Hissing of Summer Lawns

The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa: Her Eyes Have It

Andre Ethier: Dream on Pigs

Ted Lucas: It Is So Nice To Get Stoned


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In today’s episode, we ask, how can a lack of touch, a lack of hapticality arouse so much in us? What does it mean to be deprived of touch as animals, and what does loneliness have to do with physical contact? If we’re not touching other people, what exactly are we touching?


  • Thank you as always to Roger 3000 for providing the intro music for this show
  • Underneath my voice today you will hear Hildegard von Bingen’s Canticles of Ecstasy, performed by Sequentia (1993)
  • This episode was originally aired on Cashmere Radio and CHFR 96.5 Hornby Island Community Radio



Robin Beth Schaer


The dead are for morticians & butchers

to touch. Only a gloved hand. Even my son

will leave a grounded wren or bat alone

like a hot stove. When he spots a monarch

in the driveway he stares. It’s dead,

I say, you can touch it. The opposite rule:

butterflies are too fragile to hold

alive, just the brush of skin could rip

a wing. He skims the orange & black whorls

with only two fingers, the way he learned

to feel the backs of starfish & horseshoe crabs

at the zoo, the way he thinks we touch

all strangers. I was sad to be born, he tells me,

because it means I will die. I once loved someone

I never touched. We played records & drank

coffee from chipped bowls, but didn’t speak

of the days pierced by radiation. A friend

said: Let her pretend. She needs one person

who doesn’t know. If I held her, I would

have left bruises, if I undressed her, I would

have seen scars, so we never touched

& she never had to say she was dying.

We should hold each other more

while we are still alive, even if it hurts.

People really die of loneliness, skin hunger

the doctors call it. In a study on love,

baby monkeys were given a choice

between a wire mother with milk

& a wool mother with none. Like them,

I would choose to starve & hold the soft body.


Copyright © 2019 by Robin Beth Schaer.


Touch Gallery: Joan of Arc

by Mary Szybist


The sculptures in this gallery have been

carefully treated with a protective wax

so that visitors may touch them.

—exhibitions, the art institute

of chicago

Stone soldier, it’s okay now.

I’ve removed my rings, my watch, my bracelets.

I’m allowed, brave girl,

to touch you here, where the mail covers your throat,

your full neck, down your shoulders

to here, where raised unlatchable buckles

mock-fasten your plated armor.

Nothing peels from you.

Your skin gleams like the silver earrings

you do not wear.

Above you, museum windows gleam October.

Above you, high gold leaves flinch in the garden,

but the flat immovable leaves entwined in your hair to crown you

go through what my fingers can’t.

I want you to have a mind I can turn in my hands.

You have a smooth and upturned chin,

cold cheeks, unbruisable eyes,

and hair as grooved as fig skin.

It’s October, but it’s not October

behind your ears, which don’t hint

of dark birds moving overhead,

or of the blush and canary leaves

emptying themselves

in slow spasms

into shallow hedgerows.

Still bride of your own armor,

bride of your own blind eyes,

this isn’t an appeal.

If I could I would let your hair down

and make your ears disappear.

Your head at my shoulder, my fingers on your lips—

as if the cool of your stone curls were the cool

              of an evening—

as if you were about to eat salt from my hand.

Copyright © 2013 by Mary Szybist.


1). Life Without Buildings, The Leanover (Any Other City, 2001)
2). Iceblink, Cellphone in the Bath (Carpet Cocoon, 2020)
3). Erykah Badu feat. André 3000, Hello (But You Caint Use My Phone, 2015)
4). Abdul Wadud, In a Breeze, (By Myself, 1977)
5). FKA Twigs feat. Lucinda Chua (Cellophane, Magdalene, 2019)
6). Liam Byrne, Les Voix Humaines (Concrete, 2019)
7). Andy Bey, The Power of My Mind (Experience & Judgement, 1973)
8). H.Takahashi, Circulation (Low Power, 2019)
9). Hildegard V. Bingen, O Rubor Sanguinis (Sequentia, Voice of the Blood, 1995)
10). Arca, Piel (Arca, 2017)
11). Jeanne Lee, Yeh Come T’beh (Conspiracy, 1975)
12). Curd Duca, Touch (Elevator 2, 1999)
13). Patti Smith, The Histories of The Universe (Giorno Poety Systems: Big Ego, 1978)
14). February Montaine, Kubler Rosa (As Late as the Light that Hides it, 2019)
15). Simone Forti, Face Tunes (1968) (Al Dal La, 2018)
16). Mary Szybist, Touch Gallery: Joan of Arc (2013)
17). Eartheater, Below the Clavicle (2020)
18). Planetary Peace, I Am That I Am (Synthesis, 1980)
19). Bitsy Knox & Roger 3000, Your Body (2019)
20). Mark Renner, Wounds (Few Traces, 1986)
21). Madonna, Substitute for Love/ Drowned World (Ray Of Light, 1997)




Water Devil By Jamall May


Spout of a leaf,

listen out for the screams

of your relentless audience:

the applause of a waterfall

in the distance,

a hurricane looting

a Miami shopping mall.

How careful you are

with the rain-cradling

curve of your back.

Near your forest,

all are ready to swim

and happy to drown

in me: this lake of fire

that moats the edges.

From my mouth,

they come to peel the flames

and drink their slick throats

into the most silent

of ashes.


In this episode of Something Like we swim in water water, everywhere (but not a drop to drink?), from 300m deep in the middle of the Salish Sea to 13,821,480,454 miles from earth (and counting). The Pacific, protest, crying, and grandmothers abound. An episode on sweat surely to come.


  • As always, intro music is provided by Roger 3000
  • Background music for this episode comes thanks to Barry Truax’s Island (2001) and Roland Hanneman’s Mystic Sea (2011)
  • This episode originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio



Bitsy Knox – Field Recording on Little Trib Beach, Hornby Island, November 2019
Baka Children – Water Drum (excerpt) – Lullabies & Children’s Songs (1972)
Hiroshi Yoshimura – Something Blue – Soundscape 1: Surround (1986)
Jon Hassell – Toucan Ocean – Vernal Equinox (1977)
Bruce Lee – Be Water My Friend
Emily A. Sprague – Water Memory Poem – Water Memory/Mount Vision (2019)
Guan Pinghu – Luishui (流水 / Streams / Flowing Water) – Ancient Classics of Qin Han and Wei Dynasties (1998 issue)
Robert Haigh – The Secret Life of Waves – Creatures of the Deep (2017)
Hildegard Westerkamp – Kits Beach Sound Walk (excerpt) – Transformations (1996)
Ana Roxanne – It’s a Rainy Day on the Cosmic Shore – ~​~​~ (2019)
Southern Resident Killer Whales L-Pod in the Salish Sea – Ocean Networks Canada (October 3, 2011)
Robert Wyatt – Sea Song – Rock Bottom (1974)
Deux Filles – Drinking at the Stream – Silence & Wisdom (1982)
Talking Rain – Susan Frykberg & Hildegard Westerkamp – Harangue 1 (1998)
Kath Bloom & Loren Mazzacane Connors – How It Rains – Restless, Faithful, Desperate (1984)
Bitsy Knox – Field Recording of rain on Hornby Island, October 2019
Beverly Glenn Copeland – Erzili – Beverly Glenn Copeland (1970)
Alice Coltrane & Carlos Santana – Angel of Air / Angel of Water – Illuminations (1974)
Leo Svirsky – River Without Banks – River Without Banks (2019)
Nina Simone – Take Me To The Water – High Priestess of Soul (1968)
Doreen Day – Nibi / Water Song – (Thanks to) Mother Earth Water Walk
Fat Chants – When The Rivers Are Hot (1980)


  • Originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio




Before I get into the details of this episode of Something Like, I’d like to share some resources relating to the current protests against anti-black racism and state-sanctioned violence in America:

There is an anti-racism demonstration in Berlin this Saturday, June 6th at 2pm, starting at Potsdamer Platz.

More protests in Berlin and across Germany this week:

Protestor bail funds and support networks:

Anti-racism texts:


Janaya Future Khan on what white people must know:

The Other Box on how to be actively anti-racist:


GEMINI (May 21-June 20): “It’s OK to live a life others don’t

understand,” writes author Jenna Woginrich. That’s a healthy attitude for

an eccentric person like her, who taught herself by trial and error how to

run a small farm with a meager budget while all alone in the middle of

nowhere. But does her advice apply to everyone? I say yes, it does. All of

us have quirky behaviors and idiosyncratic ideas and odd feelings that

other people find hard to understand, let alone appreciate. I bring this to

your attention, Gemini, because the coming weeks will be a time when it’s

best for you to emancipate yourself as much as possible from the need to

be perfectly understood as you express your raw, pure, unique self.

(Rob Brezsny’s FREE WILL ASTROLOGY, Week of June 4, 2020)


The premise for this episode of Something Like is one I’ve been mulling ever since I came across a cassette tape of Frank Perry’s 1989 Zodiac album at the Free Store on Hornby Island. It got me thinking about how and why so many musicians have sonically explored the world of astrology and the universal traits of its signs. Where better to start a 12-part series on astrology than with the curious and witty, loquacious and adventurous, busy and creative minds of the Gemini? Sure, they have a reputation as heartbreakers, but they’re also the best friends and collaborators you could ever ask for (especially for Scorpios like me). It’s no wonder that the Gemini’s insatiable desire to communicate has produced so many brilliant musicians, some of whom we’ll listen to today: Prince, Laurie Anderson, Suzanne Ciani, and Sun Ra to name a few.


  • As ever, the intro for Something Like is by Roger 3000
  • During speaking segments, the music under my voice is Harry Partch’s Castor & Pollux (1952), and then Jean-Philippe Rameau’s Suite Castor et Pollux (1773)
  • Originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio


Frank Perry: Gemini, (Zodiac, 1989)
Prince: Why the Butterflies (Piano & A Microphone, 1983, 2018)
“Blue” Gene Tyranny: Leading a Double Life (“Blue” Gene Tyranny, 1978)
Emerald Web: Through the Garden of Mirrors (Valley of the Birds, 1981)
Brian Eno: St. Elmo’s Fire (Another Green World, 1975)
Robert Creeley: Gemini (Goddard College, May 18 1973)
Marion Brown & Gunter Hampel: Gemini (no.520) (Gemini, 1983)
Laurie Anderson: Born, Never Asked (Big Science, 1981)
Michele Mercure: Beside Herself (Beside Herself, 2018)
Mort Garson: In Love, Gemini (Signs of the Zodiac, 1969)
Joan Armitrading: What Do You Want (To the Limit, 1978)
Fleetwood Mac: Silver Springs (1977)
Suzanne Ciani: The Eighth Wave (The Velocity of Love, 1985)
The Travelers: Wanderer (1960)
Ströer Duo: Nomad Song (Nomaden, 1985)
Just Us: Easy
Yves Jarvis: Talking or Listening (The Same But By Different Means, 2019)
Tushiya Sukegawa: Gemini (Bioçic Music, Astrology, 1993)
Sun Ra: That’s How I Feel (Languidity, 1978)




For the Tuesdays that feel more like Saturdays and the Sundays that feel like a Monday, this show brings us all the procrastinating, languid, zoned out glory of trying to best understand what to do with your time, and when. Prayers and ragers for busy and dumbbell minds alike.

  • Jingle tune comes courtesy of my best buddy Roger 3000
  • The music under my voice is a wobbly, delayed version of François Couperin’s “Deuxième Leçon de Ténèbres”
  • Originally aired on Cashmere Radio and 96.5 CHFR Hornby Island Community Radio



1). Barefoot in New York, Arthur Russell
2). This is Almost a Happy Ending, 48 Cameras
3). There’s a Scent of Rain in the Air, A.C. Marias
4). Another Weekend, Ariel Pink
5). 水夫たちの歌声, World Standard
6). Lake, Anna Domino
7). CLST1, Sublyme Diagonal
8). Summertime, MiEKAL aND
9). Euphoria, Stacey Jones
10). Memory of a Big Room (for Matthew), Ellen Fullman
11). In All This Everyday, Joanne Kyger
12). Dal Di Là, Simone Forti
13). Summer On Its Way, Paul Buchanan
14). Spielt Eigene Kompositionen, Tsegué-Maryam Guèbrou
15). Sun Dance Poem, Ursula K. Le Guin & Todd Barton
16). Prayer, Saskia
17). Tuesday Brightness, Eileen Myles
18). Short & Sweet, Charlemagne Palestine & Terry Jennings
19). just because u designed it, Natalie Mariko
20). These Days, Trine Dryholm
21). Je Derve Avec L’Air, Yoran
22). Out On The Weekend, Neil Young

Bonjour mes amis,

I’m very excited to share the second episode of our series on Baroque music, all about the music made during the reign of Louis XIV. Those of you who know me will know that this music is the origin of my love of baroque music, and I’ve tried to bring a little bit of context to this fascinating era in which ballet was first refined, and in which a seventh string was added to the viola da gamba! What a time!

The cover image for this episode comes courtesy of the Victoria & Albert Museum, and is an illustration of a costume for a “Hocricane” in La Douairère de Dillebahaut, from 1626.


1) Le Roy: Ballet de la Merlaison (Groupe des Instruments Anciens de Paris), Louis XIII
2) Les Pleurs D’Orphée (L’Orchestre De Louis XIII), Danicon Philidor
3) Overture: La Ballet de la Nuit (Musica Antica Köln), Jean-Baptiste Lully
4) Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme: Marche Pour la Cérémonie des Turcs, Jean-Baptiste Lully
5) Works for 2 Bass Viols (Les Voix Humaines), Monsieur de Sainte Colombe
6) Pomone: Que Voyez-Vous Mes Yeux (Céline Scheen), Robert Cambert
7) La Reveuse (Jordi Savall), Marin Marais
8) Sonata 2 (Bizzarrie Armoniche), Elisabeth Jacquet de la Guerre
9) Les Barricades Mysterieuses (Hanneke van Proodij), Francois Couperin
10) Capricci in musica à 3 El Travagliato (Arranged by Francois Colpron), Les Boréades de Montréal
11) La Triomphe de l’Amour: Prelude Pour la Nuit (Musica Antica Köln), Jean-Baptiste Lully
12) Le Tableau de l’Operation de la Taille (Cem Duruoz), Marin Marais
13) Ma Virginie, Hélène Baillargeon and Alan Mills


Hello my friends,

I’m so very happy and proud to share the 10th episode of Something Like with you!

This episode is dedicated wholly to the voice, and particularly the female voice: to our breath, to our speech, and to our songs. Thank you to Luzie Meyer and her class at Weissensee Kunsthochschule for the fascinating seminar on situated feminism in sound I get to sit in on. I’m excited to put a couple of the musicians we’ve spoken about in another sonic context here. I also want to thank Kate Brown and Ben Marvin for asking me to contribute to their occasional mailer, S.W.I.M. (, which includes a text and sound piece corresponding to this episode. Finally, I want to thank Elif Saydam, artist, roommate/domestic life partner and all around friend, who is responsible for the gorgeous cover image of this episode, as well as many joys in my life. Wow, friends, right?

  • The music behind me is from Joanna Brouk’s 1981 “The Space Between”


1) The Park, Robert Ashley
2) Raga Shanmukhapriya, Aruna Sairam
3) Dolmen Music (Extract), Meredith Monk
4) Kyrie, Thomas Tallis (Tallis Scholars)
5) Ay Çürüdü, Anadol
6) Sea Wave, Jeritree
7) Out Through the Skin, O Yuki Conjugate
8) Winter Icicle Rain, Claire Hammil
9) Woman in Late, Roberto Musci & Giovanni Venosta
10) Calming Down Song, Laensha (Musik der Hamar)
11) I’d Rather Be Blind (live), Etta James
12) I Put A Spell On You (live), Alice Smith
13) Mir Stanke Le, Bulgarian State Radio & TV Female Choir
14) Gloomy Sunday, Diamanda Galas
15) Song to Keep You Company, Bridget St. John
16) Mi Specchio & Rifletto, Silvia Tarozzi
17) Baby I, Joan Armitrading
18) Tsugaru Tour, Akiko Yano
19) Si T’es Mal Dans Ton Peau, Koko Ateba
20) Yoake No Scat, Reiko Ike
21)Just (After Song of Songs), David Lang



Hello babies, little kids, big kids, and very big kids, this is the long-awaited “Smooth Baby FM” episode!

I have a lot of people to thank for their input into the choices for this episode: Rebecca Brewer, Chlose Mckintosh Murray, Elizabeth McIntosh and Stephen Murray, Emma LaMorte and Ben Marvin, Kate Brown, Nicole Ondre and Kalin Harvey, Lodovico Corsini, Eléonore Jacquard, Michele di Menna, Martin Meert, Sophie Fürse, and Joseph Shabason, to name a few. Not all of your suggestions made it in here but thank you so much for widening my eyes to the surprising sonic world of the smalls!

Cover image comes to us via Tarō Gomi
Music under my voice is thanks to Steve Roach’s “Quiet Friend”

Vibe breakdown:

00:00:00 – 00:40:00 = curious and busy minds (for staring at walls, colouring?)
00:40:00 – 01:02:00 = dance party!
01:09:00 – 01:30:00 = cool down and chill out (with made-up languages and mouth bows)
1:30:00 – 2:00:00 = nap time



1) Torero Piece, Beth Anderson
2) Breastfeeding Dakota on Sesame Street, Buffy Sainte-Marie
3) Baby Daughter, Jeff Majors
4) Mr. Dressup intro & Finnegan learning to use the phone, Donald Himes & Judith Lawrence
5) For Papa, Michael Vincent Waller
6) Saturday Morning Doze, Earnest Hood
7) Mount Nod, February Montaine
8) Reading Rainbow theme song, Steve Horelick & Tina Fabrique
9) Itsy Bitsy Spider, Carly Simon
10) Astro Boy (Are You Ready?), Chlose McIntosh-Murray
11) Me & Julio, Paul Simon & Special Guest
12) Magic Dance, David Bowie
13) We Are Family, Sister Sledge
14) After School, Earnest Hood
15) Jesus Children of America, Stevie Wonder
16) Singing lessons on Sesame Street, Stevie Wonder & Grover
17) Lost Mi Love, Yellowman
18) The Alphabet Song, Patti Labelle
19) Tingle Apho Playing the Musical Bow, Music of the Hamar
20) Cripple Creek, Buffy Sainte-Marie
21) All the Tired Horses, Missouri Salutes Bob Dylan
22) Close My Eyes, Arthur Russell
23) Lullaby – Lahel, Ursula K. Le Guin & Todd Barton
24) The Shepard with the Flute, Girma Yifrashewa
25) Milky Way, Weather Report
26) Lowland, Shabason/Gunning
27) Lament, Nature Lovers
28) Music to Help You Sleep, Pandit Raghunath Seth



As we know, Chronos, the personification of time, created Chaos and Aether. How apt. If you have also been wondering why your brain won’t stop the jibber-jabber of activity at night these days, then you’re not alone. Time is alive.

We start this episode with Nina Simone asking where the time goes, and work our way through the crackly wistful folk boo hoos of the likes of Duncan Browne, Kath Bloom and Loren MazzaCane all the way to some cathartic ticky-tacking Swiss and Italian musical projects fiddling with insistent rhythm (which is how my brain feels as it desperately tries to connect with the crippling lethargy of my body, like a cranky and exhausted child being dragged by its determinedly busy mother, my brain). This all leads to Selma Hayek being thrashed by the surf, and Jesus Christ getting an earful from Judas as Mary Magdalene attempts to soothe his cracked feet.

Happy quelling of the subconscious, everybody! I’m tired.

Under my voice is “Celestial Ash” by Anna Homler.



1) Who Knows Where the Time Goes, Nina Simone
2) In a Mist, Duncan Browne
3) 3D Girls, J Spaceman & Sun City Girls
4) When Your Dreams Come True, Kath Bloom and Loren Mazzacane
5) Epirotiko Mirologi, Alexis Zoumbas
6) Turiya and Ramakrishna, Alice Coltrane
7) Who is Still Dreaming, June 11
8) Il Letargo, Maria Monti
9) Dreamings, Elephant Chateau
10) Io, Miyako Koda
11) Il Gioco dei Sogni, O.A.S.I.
12) Everything’s Alright, Jesus Christ Superstar

In Patricia Rozema’s fucking excellent 1987 film “I’ve Heard the Mermaids Singing”, the loveably scrappy protagonist Polly (a rare female voyeur in film!) discovers that her cool gallerist boss privately makes exquisite paintings, which appear only as blindingly bright, empty light boxes on film.

This episode of Something Like explores the dichotomy of darkness and light, using Fanny Howe’s short essay on the blind French Resistance hero Jacques Lusseyran—”A Useful Man”—as our guide. This essay comes to us via her new book, Night Philosophy, out now and available via Divided Publishing:

The music under my voice is Telemann’s Concerto for Traverso and Recorder in E Minor (Bremer Barockorchester)



1) Morning Prayer, Kirby Shelstad and Richard Allen
2) Good Morning Blues, Beverly Glenn-Copeland
3) Vision, Elodie Lauten
4) Lumière Écarlate, Catherine Ribiero + 2Bis
5) Aria, Franco Nanni
6) Emerald Pool, Pauline Anna Strom
7) Viking, Moondog
8) I Trawl the Megahertz, Paddy McAloon
9) Blaue Stunde, HSBC
10) Abends, Heinz Becker, Karl-Heinz Stegmann, Isabel Zeumer
11) Evening Breeze, Tsegué-Maryam Guèbrou
12) Afraid, Nico
13) La Nuit, Jean-Philippe Rameau


Hello my dear friends,

I’m back with the 6th edition of Something Like. This episode is dedicated to a handful of American avant-garde composers, most of whom came into prominence in the 70s and many of whom are at least loosely affiliated with Mills College’s Center for Contemporary Music in Oakland, California (which originated as the San Francisco Tape Music Center).

So, you know, something like another kind of, like, pop music.

The music under my voice this time is from Carl Stone’s Woo Lae Oak.

The blog post on Wadada Leo Smith and his scores, written by Bradley Bailey over at the Hum, can be found here:

And here’s the final scene, in all of its gay glory, of “Songs of Sappho”, featuring Andrea Goodman and the New York Greek Drama Company:

Sending my undying love and the strong urge to hug you!



1) Interspecies Small Talk Part 1, David Behrman
2) Talk 1, Jacqueline Humbert & David Rosenboom
3) Strand, Meredith Monk
4) Songs of Sappho, Andrea Goodman
5) Portrait of Sappho, Linda Montano
6) QS, Maggi Payne
7) Seeds of a Forgotten Flower, Wadada Leo Smith & Ed Blackwell
8) Next Time Might Be Your Time, Blue Gene Tyranny
9) O Superman, Laurie Anderson


As long promised, here is the 1st part of my 3-part amateur guide for amateurs to Baroque Music.

This is in no way an exhaustive history of early Baroque, but more of a personal exploration into an era of music that has long fascinated me. As a result, gaping holes abound. So, inevitably, do historical mistakes* and misinterpretations.

The pieces of music I’m playing for you here are really a mixture of personal favourites and ones that have helped me understand and contextualise the music in history.

As ever, please excuse my terrible pronunciations in Latin, Spanish, Italian, and Nahuatl!

Much love, miss you and love you all!


  • I repeatedly refer to GIULIO Caccini as Giovanni. Whoops.
  • Oh and another: When I mention slavery at the beginning of the episode, I’m referring to the beginnings of slavery in America, which began in 1619.


1) Spem in Allium, Thomas Tallis
2) Blame I Confess, William Byrd
3) Tu Se Morta (Orfeo), Claudio Monteverdi
4) Lasciatemi Qui Solo, Francesca Caccini
5) Sinfonia No. 5, Leonora Duarte
6) Lachrimae, John Dowland
7) Dovehouse Pavan, Alfonso Ferabosco
8) Pavan for Two Bass Viols, John Jenkins
9) The Street Cries of London, Orlando Gibbons
10) Xicochi Conetzintle, Gaspar Fernandes
11) Collection Flores de música, 1706-1709 Differenzias sobre la Gayta, Anonymous (Salsa Baroque)


As promised, and coming straight to you from my bedroom, here is a whirling and needy journey through the sonic cosmos of sexual desire and romantic love. Stick with me, this one’s a long and surprising one.

The (mostly erotic) poems you hear all come from the exhaustive “World Poetry: An Anthology of Verse From Antiquity to Our Time” edited by Katharine Washburn, John S. Major, and Clifton Fadiman,

Underneath my voice you hear Monsieur de Saint Colombe and his Works for 2 Bass Viols.



1) Loving You, Erykah Badu
2) Lonely Can Be Sweet, Ursula Rucker
3) Love at First Sight, The Gist
4) Love Is Stronger Than Pride, Sade
5) I Too Am Waiting, Syreeta
6) My Life, Noriko Miyamoto
7) Inside My Love, Minnie Riperton
8) International Lover, Prince
9) Let’s Fall in Love, Lewis
10) White Bird, June 11
11) A Love Song, Pauline Oliveros
12) Flute Cloud, O Yuki Conjugate
13) A Certain Position, Mind/Body/Split
14) High, Bendik Giske
15) A Case of You, Prince
16) Tempting, Anna Domino
17) Sex in the Afternoon, Bitsy Knox & Roger 3000
18) Below the Stars, The Field Mice
19) Big Time Sensuality, Björk

Back again, my dear friends, with a Saturday evening show dedicated to the world of plants! Songs for plants, by plants, about plants, all in the tune of green. Which means, of course, some of the (mostly) New Age goo I love the most.

I know I promised you a sexy-no-sex show, but it turns out there are a lot of songs about sex, romance, and desire, so you’ll have to hold onto your panting loins for a few days longer. Ditto all my baby mummas/daddyos, Smooth Baby FM is on the way!

p.s. sorry for butchering names (especially in Latin) as usual.

Love you! Miss you!



1) The Secret Life of Plants, Stevie Wonder
2) Hibiscus, Andy Bey
3) Le Temps des Moissons, Ariel Kalma
4) Organic Eternity, Daniel Kobialka
5) Mushroom Haiku, John Cage
6) Boletus Edulis, Václav Hálek
7) Story of Forest, Masayoshi Fujita
8) Hortus Deliciarum, Hildegard von Bingen
9) Hilde, Nat Marcus
10) Lush, Félicia Atkinson
11) Large Oak, Keeley Forsyth


I’m back. This is not an April Fool’s Edition, don’t worry.

I love you and miss you, dear friend. Here’s to the Pacific Ocean, Gaia, and wishing I could give 20-second-hugs to you all.

Happy Birthday, Juan Pablo Larraín!

  • Now taking requests for upcoming episodes. The themes are: “Smooth Baby FM” (for all of our baby mummas and daddy-o’s). Send me your baby’s babble. Or yours, you baby, you.
  • Sexy no sex (for those of you who are curious how I will narrate your masturbation playlist)


1) I Want You To Know Me, White Light
2) Tu Ne Meurs Pas, Roger 3000
3) To Say That is Easy, Yves Tumor
4) Cry Theme, Klein
5) Msunduza, Dollar Brand (Abdullah Ibrahim)
6) There is a Balm in Gilead, Jeanne Lee (Arranged by Archie Shepp)
7) Peace (live), Trio Sharrock Puschnig Godard
8) Ballad of the Lights, Arthur Russel and the Flying Hearts ft. Allen Ginsberg
9) My Body is a Cage (Arcade Fire cover), Peter Gabriel
10) Ever New, Beverly Glenn-Copeland
11) Everybody’s Free, Quindon Tarver


A Coronamix just for my sweetest friends. Love you and miss you.

Music behind my voice is from the great contemporary gambist Liam Byrne, all off of his album “Concrete”

The Marge Piercy book I mentioned wasn’t, in fact, “He, She, and It” but “Woman on the Edge of Time”. Both brilliant works!

Please don’t share this on social media, but feel free to share amongst mutual friends! <3 <3 <3



1) God Is Alive, Magick is Afoot, Buffy Sainte-Marie
2) London, Angel Bat Dawid
3) Window View (Excerpt), Jane Philbrick
4) Antico Adagio, Lino Capra Vaccina
5) Through Your Blue Veil, Jeritree
6) Esperidi, Roberto Mazza
7) Barreras, Iuri Lech
8) Le Badinage, Marin Marais
9) Le Badinage, Marain Marais (remixed by Bitsy Knox)
10) Night Snack, Chunking Express OST